1990-1991 MBB schedule

cyclonepower

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I always like to look back and see who we play in the non-conference from previous seasons. Holy smokes look at '90-'91!

Basketball (M) - Schedule - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - The home of Iowa State Cyclone Sports

Maui Invitational
Chiminade
Syracuse
Santa Clara

Tournament in Charlotte
Houston(think they were good then)
North Carolina

Minnesota
@Baylor (Before they were in the Big 12)
@Iowa
@UNI
@Michigan
Indiana
Temple (they were ranked 6)
@Arizona
Drake
Creighton
Ill-Chicago
 

ribsnwhiskey

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I always like to look back and see who we play in the non-conference from previous seasons. Holy smokes look at '90-'91!

Basketball (M) - Schedule - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - The home of Iowa State Cyclone Sports

Maui Invitational
Chiminade
Syracuse
Santa Clara

Tournament in Charlotte
Houston(think they were good then)
North Carolina

Minnesota
@Baylor (Before they were in the Big 12)
@Iowa
@UNI
@Michigan
Indiana
Temple (they were ranked 6)
@Arizona
Drake
Creighton
Ill-Chicago

I remember that season. It was brutal. I think that was the season that Big Vic, Baugh and Mack would've all been seniors together, hence the top loaded non-con schedule. Didn't work out.
 

WaverlyCy

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I always like to look back and see who we play in the non-conference from previous seasons. Holy smokes look at '90-'91!

Basketball (M) - Schedule - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - The home of Iowa State Cyclone Sports

Maui Invitational
Chiminade
Syracuse
Santa Clara

Tournament in Charlotte
Houston(think they were good then)
North Carolina

Minnesota
@Baylor (Before they were in the Big 12)
@Iowa
@UNI
@Michigan
Indiana
Temple (they were ranked 6)
@Arizona
Drake
Creighton
Ill-Chicago

Yikes... looks like that non-conf schedule got the best of us too.
 

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That was the year of the infamous scoreboard pass win over Minnesota at Williams Arena.

Gopher Ariel McDonald, with game tied and about 10 seconds left, tries a full court inbounds pass from under the ISU basket. The ball hits the hanging scoreboard over the center of the court, and is ruled a turnover. ISU inbounds under their own basket, gets a basket and a foul, and ISU sneaks out with a win.

The Gophers raised the hanging scoreboard 20 feet the next year.

EDIT: My bad, this was 1991-92. Still fun to remember it though
 
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cyatheart

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Yeah, Baugh, Big Vic, and Mack were going to be seniors so Johnny loaded up the schedule. After that he said "Whooooo, man we are going to go get some dogs and were gannna bring em in here and drill em! We are ganna find some teams you never heard of man!"

Someting like that.
 

J-Diggy

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I was in school then. Simply a brutal schedule and only 1 of the big 3 made it that far, and by then Big Vic was close to 300 if not more.

Got a little unlucky too. Lost to Houston in Charlotte and then UNC gets upset in the other first round game so we have to play them in the losers bracket.

Our team really wasn't that bad, maybe a bubble team or NIT for sure with the right schedule, but had no chance after running that guantlet.
 

Prone2Clone

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I remember that season. It was brutal. I think that was the season that Big Vic, Baugh and Mack would've all been seniors together, hence the top loaded non-con schedule. Didn't work out.

Yep, it was a "what could have been" season. Ended up being really ugly.
 

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it really was a different era back then. coaches of BCS schools scheduled each other all the time, now everyone's too afraid of losing and making sure you get the wins to survive a tough conference season.

JO had back-back losing seasons, the sam mack fiasco, players flunking out of school midseason, etc. i don't think coaches are able to survive rough two-year stretches like that anymore.
 

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Interesting look-back.

I remember that bad record in non-conference, although I didn't remember it was 4-10. Wow.

Amusing to think one of the few wins came vs. Michigan — two years after its national title, and one year before the Fab Five. Nice timing!. :rolleyes:

I seem to recall it the schedule was deemed the hardest in the country that year. For some reason I thought it was the 89-90 season when that happened. Maybe I'm confusing it with the fact 89-90 was just plain awful.

Unrelated '90-91 notes: ISU lost to Syracuse ... which became the first victim of the dreaded 2-15 upset in that season's tournament (remember how fun it was when something like that happened? :sad:) and beat Temple, which ended up going to the Elite 8 (in the same sub-region as Syracuse) ... losing to another team that beat ISU that year, North Carolina.
 

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Orr loaded it up so he could make a run and something special. Too bad it didnt turn out.

Rolled the dice and it went haywire. Anything with the roster as it was anticipated, and it would've been a decent gambit. Would have needed probably a 10-4 record, even with a fairly challenging non-league slate, but 17-11 might have been a LOCK that year.

Strange thing is, the conference record was, what, 7-7? Just about average for Orr teams, up to that point.
 

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That's as tough of a schedule as anyone can ever imagine. I still really like the team ISU had that year. Victor was a senior, as was Doug Collins, Phil Kunz, and Paul Doerrfeld. The Freshmen that year were Skip McCoy, Donnell Bivens, and Saun Jackson. And it was Justus' sophomore year. The win vs. Michigan was obviously very important to Coach Orr. And there were great wins against Temple, a home win vs. Missouri (Doug Smith & Anthony Peeler), a convincing win at Kansas State, a sweep of Oklahoma, and a great win at home against Oklahoma State.
 

cyclones500

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That's as tough of a schedule as anyone can ever imagine. I still really like the team ISU had that year. Victor was a senior, as was Doug Collins, Phil Kunz, and Paul Doerrfeld. The Freshmen that year were Skip McCoy, Donnell Bivens, and Saun Jackson. And it was Justus' sophomore year. The win vs. Michigan was obviously very important to Coach Orr. And there were great wins against Temple, a home win vs. Missouri (Doug Smith & Anthony Peeler), a convincing win at Kansas State, a sweep of Oklahoma, and a great win at home against Oklahoma State.

Not a bad roster at all. Imagine if Victor & Doerrfeld were seniors & Justus was a junior instead. Hmmm.

Considering the fallout on the marquee players — Heck, that year might have been Orr's best job as a coach at ISU.

Donnell Bivens. How could I have forgotten that name?:yes:
 

cayin

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That was the year of the infamous scoreboard pass win over Minnesota at Williams Arena.

Gopher Ariel McDonald, with game tied and about 10 seconds left, tries a full court inbounds pass from under the ISU basket. The ball hits the hanging scoreboard over the center of the court, and is ruled a turnover. ISU inbounds under their own basket, gets a basket and a foul, and ISU sneaks out with a win.

The Gophers raised the hanging scoreboard 20 feet the next year.

EDIT: My bad, this was 1991-92. Still fun to remember it though

yeah, I was at that game. Hoiberg was a freshman. Great game. After we won, we were 10-2 with a tough non conference schedule that year too. Finished the non conference at 13-2. That team made the second round of the NCAAs and lost a close one to Ky.
 

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